Jews Perpetrating Terror Upon Jews?

On Thursday, March 20th 2008, a terrorist attack was made against an Israeli family in Ariel, Samaria.

An explosive device was concealed in a Purim gift basket. The device exploded when the unsuspecting 16 year old son of David Ortiz, a well known Messianic pastor opened the "gift."

Ami Ortiz's life was saved. He suffered terrible wounds and burns, and continues to be in much pain physically and emotionally.

According to a recent update by Shekinah blog, the police have a clear lead. The Ortiz home fortunately had security cameras installed. The individual responsible for leaving the Purim "gift" basket was clearly photographed. Though as of the time of that update no arrest had been made. It is possible that others were also involved.

Information recieved from police by the Ortiz family conveys that it was not an Islamic terrorist assault. But is strongly believed to have been perpetrated by extremist anti-missionary Jews.

If true, it constitutes an additional tradgedy. One that causes injury to all of Israel:

Jews perpetrating terror upon Jews.

What absolute shame!

In August of 2005 the world watched in disbelief, some with glee, the horrible sad spectacle of Jews forcibly uprooting and expelling their own fellow Jewish countryman from their homes and land in Gaza and northern Samaria.

Not too long ago there was the unsightly spectacle of Jews participating in Mr. "Wipe them off the map" Ahmadinejad's Iranian Holocaust denial conference in Tehran.

Just yesterday a group of Haredim Jews attacked a 50 year old Israeli man for hanging a flag of Israel. The Haredim are anti-zionist and say Jews in Israel have no right to self-determination. What are they doing in Israel then?

One thing you can be absolutely certain of:

As Israel celebrates it's 60th anniversary of Independence, there will be thousands of patriotic Israel loving Messianic Jews celebrating and expressing their patriotism and support for Israel as well!

The persecution of Messianic believers in Yeshua by many Ultra-Orthodox is well known. Is it not Shas who represents the Ultra-Orthodox? Is it not Shas that continues to empower the current weak "appeasement" government of Ehud Olmert by refusing to quit? Even while negotiations are made to surrender Judea and Samaria for a Palestinian terror state?

Here is a video link to statements made by David Ortiz, father of the young Israeli wounded in that dispicable act of terror.

From elsewhere:

Religious Extremism Threatens Life of Israeli Teen-Ariel municipality website.

The young Israeli likes postcards from different cities. You can write a prayer for him and his family and send it to:

Ami Ortiz, P.O. Box 1903,

Ariel 40700, Israel

Update 10/31/09 From Jpost:

"The Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) and Israel Police have arrested an American-born Jewish settler who is allegedly behind an unprecedented series of deadly terror shootings and bombings spanning over a decade, in which two Palestinians were killed and Israel Prize Laureate Prof. Ze'ev Sternhell was injured. According to the Shin Bet, he also planted a bomb at the entrance to house of a messianic family in Ariel, seriously wounding their son, then-15-year-old Ami Ortiz. "

Ortiz family reaction:

"The Ortiz family said that they do not hold the religious community to blame for the attack, and that they understand it is only a very small minority of the community that would carry out such an attack."

"When the family found out that the alledged perpetrator of the attack was Jewish 'it really hurt, Ami said, 'because it's like your own brother has done something like this to you."-more here. 

 

 

Comments

[Jew With A View]

Messianics are free and welcome to live in Israel and support Israel.

They are just being condemned for calling their religion 'judaism' when it IS NOT.

It is objective FACT that the Messianic movement was founded entirely by evangelical Christians. It is funded by evangelical Churches. Numerous Christian leaders and movements have themselves openly **condemned** the deceit practised by these Christians who pose as 'messianic jews'.

Since when do Christians get to REdefine what is and is not Jewish identity and beliefs?

The majority of Messianics were never Jews to start with.
Those that were, are now EX Jews, as they have embraced Christianity and worship of Jesus. That is their right - but they have no right to declare it 'judaism'.

If a Christian STOPS believing in Jesus, can they still claim to practise Christianity?
Answer: no.

Same logic.

[Amerisrael]

To Jew With A View- Question:

If a Jew stops believing in or has never had regard for the God of Israel, or the Hebrew Scriptures, can they still be Jewish?

[same logic].,

There are many liberal, secular, atheist Jews living in and outside the State of Israel that have no regard for the God of Israel, yet their Jewish identity is never called into question.

Many of those liberal Jews, 78% in America, cast their votes for Obama.

And you are right that many Christian leaders and movements have criticised Messianic Jews. Especially those so-called Christians who hate Israel. They don't like the Messianic Jews who strongly believe in God's Covenant with Israel. Those so-called Christians are what constitute the radical religious left in America. Folks like Jimmy Carter and Obama.

And they also attack evangelical Christian Zionists because of our support for Israel.

See my post entitled "Religious Left Helps Sponsor Pro-Terrorist Rally In Chicago." http://amerisrael.typepad.com/my_weblog/2009/01/for-those-curious-as-to-who-constitutes-the-radical-religious-left-in-america-visit-this-link-and-scroll-down-to-see-the-va.html

The word Christ is translated from the hebrew "Moshiach"-the anointed one [Messiah]. "Jesus" is the greek translation of "Yeshua"-He will save.

"And the Redeemer shall come to Zion , and unto them that turn from sin in Jacob."-Isaiah 59: 20 The "Redeemer" is the Messiah.

"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upn his shoulder: and his name shall be called "Wonderfull, Counseller, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."-Isaiah 9:5,6

A "son" is born. His name is "Mighty God".
http://www.messianicart.com/chazak/yeshua/isaiah9.htm

"Let Israel hope in the Lord: for with the Lord there is mercy, and with Him is great redemption."
"And He shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities."-Ps 130: 7,8.

[Tabatha]

Please get your basic facts straight.

You stated: "The word Christ is translated from the hebrew "Moshiach""

This is incorrect.

Mashiach = 'anointed' in Hebrew.
In GREEK, 'anointed' is CHRISTOS
And it was THIS GREEK WORD that then became 'christ'.

Not directly from the Hebrew, as you wrongly stated - but from the GREEK.

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Your other points are bizarre, frankly. The fact that some Jews are not religious, the fact that some Jews voted for Obama, has ****NOTHING**** to do with the deceit practised by Christian evangelists who pose as "messianic jews".

You stated: "There are many liberal, secular, atheist Jews living in and outside the State of Israel that have no regard for the God of Israel, yet their Jewish identity is never called into question."

And you really don't see the fallacy in your remarks???

Yes, there are liberal and secular and atheist Jews living in and outside Israel. It's a little thing known as PERSONAL CHOICE - just as there are LAPSED CATHOLICS living in many countries. Does that mean that because there are lapsed Catholics, that it would be OK for a NON CATHOLIC group to pose AS 'the real catholics' and then espouse a religion that VIOLATED core Catholic belief?

No, of course not! Yet YOU are trying to claim it's fine to do that to JUDAISM - just because **SOME** Jews aren't religious and voted for Obama???

You don't get to REdefine Jewish identity. You don't have to agree with Jewish religious laws - nobody is asking for your approval. Judaism defines JEWISH identity - and has been doing so for thousands of years.

A person born to a Jewish mother REMAINS part of the Jewish family UNLESS they adopt ANOTHER FAITH. Any other faith.

Simple as that.

If they adopt another religion, they are then an Apostate. An EX Jew. Just as a Christian who adopts another faith is an EX CHRISTIAN.

Presumably you would consider Billy Graham a devout Christian? He has publicly condemned the Messianic movement for its deceit in claiming to be 'jewish'.

Let me say it even more bluntly:

Messianics are LITERALLY *not* Jewish.

Just as Muslims/Hindus/Protestants are literally not Jewish.

Again: YOU don't get to REdefine JEWISH IDENTITY.

[Amerisrael]

To Tabitha: Thanks for commenting.
You said:

"Yes, there are liberal and secular and atheist Jews living in and outside Israel. It's a little thing known as PERSONAL CHOICE - just as there are LAPSED CATHOLICS living in many countries. Does that mean that because there are lapsed Catholics, that it would be OK for a NON CATHOLIC group to pose AS 'the real catholics' and then espouse a religion that VIOLATED core Catholic belief?"

"No, of course not! Yet YOU are trying to claim it's fine to do that to JUDAISM - just because **SOME** Jews aren't religious and voted for Obama???"

[No, I'm not making any such claim!]

[At no time have I ever said or stated that it would be "OK" for a non-Jewish group to pose as Jews. Not ever!

Messianics are not "non-Jews". They are Jews who identify Yeshua[Jesus] as the Jewish Messiah.
Other Jews at different points in time in history have identified this or that individual as the Messiah. That within Judaism, the worship of the God of Israel, down through history there have been a variety of different opinions in favor of this individual, or that individual, as the Jewish Messiah, is well known and documented:

For example:

"A fourth-century Rabbi, Hillel, declared,'Israel has no Messiah [yet to come] since he already enjoyed him in the days of Hezekiah"- [Sanh.98b]

Some authorities identified him with David.-p 368,Dr. A Cohen,"Everyman's Talmud",1932.

Others, R. Akiba, identified the Messiah as Bar Kochba who led the revolt against Rome.-p370, ibid.

Cohen stated in his section on the Messiah that "As will be ssen, there was considerable variety of opinion about the identity of the future Redeemer."-p368

You said:

"You don't get to REdefine Jewish identity. You don't have to agree with Jewish religious laws - nobody is asking for your approval. Judaism defines JEWISH identity - and has been doing so for thousands of years."

[ You make a false accusation. Never have I attempted to re-define Jewish identity. Never.]

You said:

"A person born to a Jewish mother REMAINS part of the Jewish family UNLESS they adopt ANOTHER FAITH. Any other faith."

[So what of the Jew who adopts the Godless faith of "Atheism", who has no regard for the God of Israel? As I mentioned earlier, there are many, both in and outside of Israel. Yet there Jewish identity is never called into question.]